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Backstory : Fireplace & Chimney 2008

The very first project after we moved to the Playhaven Green Building Project was the fireplace and chimney in 2008. That story has been shifted from it's own page on the website to a PDF available from the Merchandise Section of the website.

Here is a link directly to the PDF: FireplaceChimney-Greenovation.copyrightPHFLLC.pdf

I personally think it is worth checking out, but if you aren't into detailed information about that... suffice it to say that everything eventually needs some maintenance and improvement and that is what the 2025 project is about.


Fireplace Chimney Maintenance (Spring 2025)

It has been several years since we last did maintenance on the fireplace. Partly that is because the contractor that did the exterior masonry and sealing, and the contractor that put in the chimney liner and did the sweeping/cleaning have both gone out of business. Therefore, I was on the hunt for someone to take over those responsibilities.

The other part is that the hubby found a taller chimney vent and installed it this weekend (February).

The image at left is from 2010 when the chimney was treated is Siloxane(PD). I've included it so you can see the original vent caps.

There are two (2) chimneys: the one on the left (larger cap) is for the fireplace on the ground floor; while the one on the right (smaller) is for the wood stove in the basement.

The hubby replaced the fireplace vent cap with a taller version. So far, the theory that the smoke coming out of the higher venting will be blown away instead of being drawn back down the basement chimney is proving true. (fingers crossed, etc.)

As an aside, we discovered that the new vent being taller may be creating a stronger draw. We are able to use the wood stove insert with the interior openings closed down further than previously which prevents the osage orange sparks less opportunity to escape onto the hearth rug.

While he was up there, he saw that the cap on the chimney has scaling and needs to be redone. Hopefully, I’ll find someone to do that and to also inspect the architectural stone and do tuck pointing as needed. We are also due for another treatment with Siloxane(PD).

I have wanted to upgrade our wood stove insert to one that has an exterior air intake (rather than the air intake coming from the conditioned air in the house -- causing the basement chimney to pull air into the house to replace the conditioned air) for many years and we hope to do that this year as well. After all, to put a hole through the masonry will require a mason.

I was hoping that whoever we find to sell us the woodstove insert would have people, or know people, to do the other masonry maintenance as well.


Visiting the local KUMA dealer

Hubby and I decided to visit the local dealer for KUMA (which is Hearth and Home in Lee’s Summit MO) to get a better idea what we need to be asking of chimney folks. Also, to see if they have people they like to work with.

It was a pleasantly slow day there (early March) and so we didn’t need to use our masks inside. They had two models of KUMA on the showroom floor. The nice man that hubby spoke with (I intentionally stepped back because hubby had really taken an interest in this project and done a great deal of research.) seemed to be new at it, but was at least able to get us a brochure of the models they sell and individual pricing for 1) the unit, 2) the chimney liner, 3) labor. Click here for the KUMA brochure.

We were really hoping to add the outside air option, but Hearth and Home doesn’t recommend doing that and told us it is really because the air draw of both units is SO LITTLE it isn’t an issue even in a tight house (like ours).

We didn’t think we would need the chimney liner they list with the unit since we had added one during the initial chimney repair. But it turns out that things have changed A LOT when it comes to wood stove inserts and that chimney liner IS required. By attaching a liner to the insert itself the effect is to create a double walled chimney with an air gap between the inner wall and the outer (original) liner.

While they prefer to install the units themselves, they did tell us we could use our own installer and they would be happy to sell us just the unit but we would be responsible for transporting it from the shop.

The nice man also gave us a card for a sweep that does repairs.

We were grateful for the information and decided to see if we could find some business that would both do both repairs and the installation.

The Search for Contractors

The following week, I called the very few businesses that searching via Google supplied who will work in our area, plus the one from the card provided by Hearth and Home.

The first business actually got back with me but didn’t want to do the installation and really prefers other masonry work even though the website specifically lists chimney repair. I think the architectural stone is what drove them away.

The business card sweep didn’t respond for at least a week and by then we had decided to go a different route.

The other business used an on-line scheduling system and you have to pay $69 for an inspection. I figured an inspection would be a good idea anyway, so I booked an appointment for the 20th of March. I received a confirmation and everything.

On March 20th, a nice man called to say he was on his way. He was efficient, pleasant, and what questions he didn’t have an answer for, he called someone to get the answers. Sadly, they would not install anyone else’s product and it turned out that the business I contacted acts as a clearing house for smaller contractors. Not really the ideal situation when hiring someone if they aren't being up-front about it. They were supposed to send us information about their wood stove insert products with pricing etc. but we never got it. I know he had the correct email address because he provided the receipt for the payment of the $69. Thank goodness I had the exact amount in cash, because they were going to tack on another $10 for credit card. Wow. I think that is a business clearing house thing, because the guy really felt genuine, had integrity. Oh well.

At this point, the Hubby and I decided not to try to hire one business to do it all. We would contract with Hearth and Home to provide the wood stove insert and install it. Then we would find someone to do the exterior repairs and seal the architectural stone. We also decided to forego the exterior air hole in the masonry at this time. Better to use the new insert for a year and see if it is truly not needed.

One really good thing that came from the inspection was the news that the downstairs wood stove would not meet code due to the pipe from it to the masonry chimney not being double walled. If we don’t intend to use it, it would be better to cap the chimney so air and wasps, etc. don’t come in through it. I looked on-line and found there are products for just that! Hubby looked at them and decided he could make a cap from what is in the garage and installed it over the weekend. Fingers crossed that stops the wasps and smoke in the basement. (As of May 2025, so far so good!)

I called Hearth and Home the following week and spoke to a woman. She was definitely more knowledgeable than the guy in the showroom. We exchanged emails with the information they needed and which model we wanted and all that pertinent information. Since they charge a small percentage to take payment over the phone, hubby went in to sign the paperwork and provide the half-down deposit. They had the Alpine LE-1 model we wanted in stock and were able to schedule the installation for April 22nd (which happens to be Earth Day, how appropriate!) We had already determined that the standard surround would work well for covering the opening of our fireplace.



Installation of the KUMA Alpine LE-1 Wood Stove Insert.

Happily, the labor cost included cleaning our 10” chimney tubing AND hauling away the old Country Flame insert.

As usual, I made sure that they were OK with me photographing the installation. I really enjoy watching people do their work and I made sure they understood I was watching for that reason and not as an ‘overseer’.

This is the classic BEFORE image. I will put it again at the end next to the AFTER so you can compare.

Here is contact information for

Hearth and Home in Lee's Summit MO:

816-524-7492

kchearthandhome.com

Hubby brought up the canvas drop cloths we keep handy, just in case. They told us their shop vac has a ‘soot filter’ and we shouldn’t have any problem with air quality or clean up but I like to be prepared for anything. The night before, we moved the shelves from next to the fireplace and also the decorations on top of the mantel out of the way. The morning of, I shifted the recliner closest to the patio doors out of the way and rolled back the rug.

The crew brought everything they needed and made sure there was protection for our floor between the door and the fireplace.

The crew of two (2) men arrived as scheduled on the 22nd. Interestingly, the guy from the showroom was one of the installers, but that was in a learning by doing capacity because the usual 2nd member had torn his bicep (ouch).

This meant the install would take longer than usual because the experienced guy would have to oversee the apprentice guy; as opposed to two (2) experienced guys each doing their portion of it: one inside, one outside.

That truck has a lift gate which makes getting the insert out of (and also into) the bed easier.

I had seen the Country Flame insert removed to facilitate cleaning the chimney, but this time was different because they removed the surround separately.

They had to shift the whole insert forward to be able to reach the screws that hold the surround in place. The light shining on the brick shows it has been shifted just a couple of inches.

Each action was accompanied with vacuuming to eliminate creosote and other particles spreading into the room.

Here you can see that the insert is at the front edge of the bricks.

The side sections of the surround have been removed.

I'll point out here that the Country Flame insert filled the entire fireplace cavity - side to side and front to back. It was designed with a hole on the top (with it's own flue) to allow for the smoke and heat to rise into the chimney. You'll want to note that the new insert is MUCH smaller and yet uses less wood to achieve a better/longer heating and efficiency.

The top surround section is removed and further vacuuming is done while they inspect the back before shifting the insert onto the dolly.

The crew manuevers shims under the insert to protect the brickwork as they shift it even further forward.

The anticipated position of the dolly turns out to be problematic because the substitute crewman is not as strong as the original. It will take both men to lift it onto the dolly.

Having changed the direction of the dolly, the insert is lifted by both men to rest on it while they further inspect the fireplace.

In this image, you can see the hole with it's own flue (not visible) in the top of the Country Flame insert.

You should also be able to see a metal access panel on the floor of the fireplace cavity. We opened it to find it provides access to the foundation of the building. It won't work for an air access so it was closed. Nice to know it is there though.

The insert is shifted again so the doors are facing up (instead of to the side as shown in the previous photo) and the entire unit is secured with ratchet straps to the dolly.

It is very handy having patio doors that open fully.

With the insert secure, the crew takes it out to the truck.

The fireplace is thoroughly inspected and the chimney is swept and everything is cleaned before further work is done.

Sorry, I don't have a photo of the sweep from the outside.

I was so intrigued about the equipment and learned that when you have a metal liner, your sweep must use not use a metal brush because it can scrape or damage the liner making places for creosote to easily attach and cause a fire hazard.

Once they are done there will be a liner attached to the insert within the liner used to repair the chimney.

The insert creates such a complete burn and high heat that there should not be any need for further sweep cleanings. However, the chimney/liner should be inspected every few years anyway.

 

The replacement Kuma insert needs additional space at the top/back area of the fireplace to facilitate connecting the chimney liner directly to the insert.

This required 'smashing' some of the fireplace bricks. The bricks that need to be smashed are marked clearly.

It doesn't not create a fire hazard when this is done for the purpose stated.

 

This image is looking UP into the chimney above the fireplace cavity.

You can see here the ORIGINAL open fire style flue (metal at the top of the image) and the chimney liner that repaired the problems with the chimney in 2008 (the shiny bit 2/3rds up the image).

The black residue is the remaining creosote left after the crew cleaned the chimney.

The new, smaller chimney liner being connected directly to the wood stove insert means there will NOT be anything building up in this area again. AND, the original flue is removed because the wood stove insert has it's own flue incorporated into the unit/chimney liner.

Another image of the same area but lower to show you exactly what was removed of the visible fireplace bricks.

Those bricks are lighter in color because the Country Flame insert blocked any ash, creosote, etc. from getting to them.

Now that the inside is ready for the new wood stove insert, work commences on the chimney to get the second liner that will attach to the insert all sorted out.

They get the exact measurements first.

The solid tubing is cut to length. The majority of the tubing is solid, so there is a short piece being cut that will be attached to a long piece before the flexible part is attached to that shorter piece.

The shorter length is screwed to the longer length.

The flexible tubing is attached to the solid tubing.

The flexible tubing is at the bottom so it can be easily attached to the insert itself.

Once it is all connected, the liner is inserted into the chimney.

The crew confirmed that the vent the Hubby purchased WOULD work as the top vent of the wood stove insert and the crewman attached the plate that surrounds the liner to the Hubby's vent.

Insulation is inserted around the new liner at the top just below the plate and the top vent.

With the liner in place and the insert sitting in the living room, the crew prepare for the installation.

In this image you can see that the insert is on it's back and the hole for the liner is plainly visible.

Before moving the insert into the fireplace cavity, the experienced crewman secures the solid, angled portions of the insert-to-liner connection to the flexible tubing that is waiting in the chimney.

It appears to be a tricky job to get all the screws in all the way around and then again to the top of the insert.

With the the insert positioned in the opening of the fireplace and connected to the liner, the crew do fine tuning of the legs/corners to be sure the unit is level in all directions.

Fiberglass batt insulation is used all the way around the unit (except underneath) and also at the top of the chimney liner just below the plate that attaches the liner to the vent.

It doesn't have to be pretty.

You might notice that the fire bricks are sitting in the insert but have not been arranged in their final locations yet.

And here is the insulation in place before the surround is put on.

You can see the vacuum hose because even then they are cleaning as they go.

Do you remember how big the Country Flame was in that cavity? Click here to go back up to that image.

The new surround is slid into place and attached.

Finally, the new KUMA Alpine LE-1 wood stove insert is installed.

You might be able to see a shiny spot on the surround where the screws that hold it in place have been spray painted. Once it cures, that won't be visible. (They left a spray can of the paint for us, wasn't that nice.)

The bricks inside have been correctly positioned. Those bricks create a thermal mass that holds the heat for a long time after the fire is out.

The unit is smaller than the Country Flame but SO MUCH MORE EFFICIENT.

And as, promised, below are the BEFORE and AFTER photos.

I am very happy that the glass door shows more of the firebox than the old insert did. I also personally prefer the black instead of the gold edges around the doors and the surround.

The installers started at 11:00 a.m. and finished just before 2:00 p.m. They were very conscientious about our doors, floors, etc. There was no extra cleaning needed due to the installation.

They didn’t make us go on-line to get the instruction manual, but instead handed a print-out to me along with the KUMA warranty sheet. Click here for a pdf of the instruction manual.

The experienced crew member gave me a lesson about using the insert and since I had already read the instruction manual, it was nice to find that they matched up. Since you don’t use an elevated grate but instead put the wood directly on the fire-bricks, it was nice to get personal instruction specifically about how much of the ash to remove and how much to leave. His suggestion was to remove about 2/3rds of the ash and then spread the remaining ash over the bricks – remembering to leave a space by the door ash-free so as not to block up the vents that help keep the glass clear. He also suggested just using Windex and a paper towel to clean the inside of the glass (when it is cool).

They accepted our check for the balance due and (as usual) we sent them away with a 1-pound jar of honey each as a tip.

We are VERY pleased with the new insert and are excited to use it once the weather is cool enough.


Chimney Maintenance (June 2025) COMING SOON

You may have noticed, if you read the info about choosing a contractor in the previous section, that I didn't talk any further about finding a contractor for the exterior chimney maintenance. That is because we happened to see a neighbor after going to vote at our local polling place (local issues, first Tuesday following the first Monday in April) and while we chatted, we asked if they could recommend anyone. And YES, they could!

They texted us the name and contact info later that day: Parker's Chimney Sweep. Of course, I lost the info and it was after the installation of the KUMA that I asked hubby if he still had it... he did!

I don't know why the business didn't show up in my Google searches... actually I probably do, but that is a different rant, LOL.

Anyway, after finding their website and reading their information, I decided to contact them and left a message by phone. They returned my call! Hurrah! We chatted a bit, I told them who referred us (because businesses like that information) and we scheduled a visit to get us an estimate in early May.

Jeremy Parker came out at the scheduled time and spent about an hour looking over our chimney and talking with us. He was not put off by the architectural stone or the slippery TPO roof. He agreed that the top of the chimney needed resealing and uses the same product that was previously used. He also uses the same product to spray the architectural stone as was previously used, so there is no problem getting either of those things done. He is happy to tuckpoint where needed and since we have extra of the architectural stone stored in the garage, it won't be a problem if he needs to replace any of the bricks.

He is scheduled to start work on June 5th. I'll provide images and such after he has finished. (I am very excited!)




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